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lol yes the epic of gilgamesh is older than the bible .. its older even than judaism!
its the oldest known book of western litereature .. older even than the odyssey and iliad! so the bible, even the jew version, isnt even in the running :)
look it up man true story
I know all about it. I am talking about the event..the flood, which predates gilgamesh. I realize they claim it was written before moses account. I don’t have a problem with that. I never said the bible was older. But the event didn’t happen while the sumerians were there, because they are descendants of Noah’s son Ham. Sumerians NEVER witnessed the flood. All of mankind was wiped out, except Noah and his family. They predate any sumerian account,and would have passed the story down from Noah’s descendants. Moses wrote the account inspired by God’s Spirit, hence the reason all the books correlate though they were written during varying periods of history over 1300 years, by 66 different authors, who lived in different places.
umm you know there was no planetwide flood tho right :)
i mean look here i live in australia
the locals have been here between 45 and 85 thousand years depending on whom you ask
theres not a single mammal native to this entire continent
so did the boat builders come to australia in the bronze age, get 2 of ever animal, take em to iraq or where ever, and bring thier decendants back here?
cmon man thats crazy
Are you an expert on geomorphology ? How would you know if there wasn’t a global flood? Geological rock formations in many sedimentary basins throughout the world show geological formations that indicate flood resettlement of strata. Further, I thought the sumerians wrote about one, as well as numerous other nations.Is justa fable then? The sumerians had nothing better to do than write fables or comic book stories? I believe in a young earth, less than 10k years. Underwater Land bridges are evidenced throughout the planet. Meaning after the flood receded, sea levels could have been hundreds of feet lower than they are now. Both animals,and humans could easily migrate to various continents, including Australia. Ken Ham is from Australia, and is director of https://answersingenesis.org/search/?q=young+earth&refinement=&language=en You know the guy that built a couple of life-sized arks in north america. The other site is ICR founded by Dr. Morris, a geologist. Many scientists believe as I do..we are not alone. I question all science especially in light of what is happening today with a phony virus. https://www.icr.org/article/glow-in-the-dark-platypuses-illuminate-the-creator/
i think if you live in a city state in the bronze age in iraq between the tigris and euphrates then a local flood seems the whole world
how would fellas from then and there actually know the difference
you suspect the earth is less than 10k?
do you think this of the visible universe generally?
or just earth
i dont think its necessary to talk about ancient land bridges to australia
they had canoes
they are not idiots you know
Yes some theories speculate that localized flooding occurred. But personally from what I have studied over the decades, often expert people will hypothesize a conclusion to maintain a specific belief or narrative. It isn’t verified science, just conjecturing. Take for example the other day I was listening to a paleontologist tell us about a tooth molar found in Australia. Claiming that iT was the ancestor of the Kangaroo, or part of this rat-kangaroo family. And from that they could determine that “possibly” it bounded on four legs. They used present-day DNA to extrapolate a time-line of 24 million years. Now how could u determine that, if there is no “living” DNA on the fragment. 24 million yrs? was it just hanging around the surface, or just a couple feet in the earth. Does that sound logical? Take for example, recent historians extracted a warplane from the North Pole. They assumed it would be near the surface, but in fact was found 200ft below under tons of snow and ice. This happened within 40 years. These pander to an evolutionary ideology that takes more faith to belief, than my God. It is a religion unto itself. Another example, North America, Niagara Falls, one of the largest in the world, erodes some 1=2 feet per year.Prior to hydro-electric generation, and remedial work, the erosion was closer to 5 feet/yr. So within 12k yrs eroded 11.4 km. Photos taken in the 20’s reveal the Falls had eroded some 450 to its current position. Now would those falls or any waterfall be around if they were 24 million years old. No. They would be however, if you have a young earth. They fail to consider the 2nd law of thermodynamics, entropy. In a closed system like the planet, you have energy loss, and disorder eventually of any system. How could the sun still be burning? Does it have an endless supply store of gas? Recent NASA observatories are finding that the energy output of the sun is on decline. The sun has more to do with climate change than carbon dioxide. Entropy of the sun would be fragmented, or cyclical, solar maximus/minimus. Sometimes its output is more, sometimes less. And yes less than 10 thousand years old because of entropy, and because God said “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.” Land bridges are still viable, option considering the migration of animals. Further after the flood it would be logical that the earth underwent an ice age period, because of the volume of water dissolving into the atmosphere would create snow, and cloud cover. The waters would recede, and previous mountain ranges, land bridges would be exposes. But sure u are right some animals could have been carried there via vessels. It boils down to faith. What do you believe? Darwinism will never convince of something coming from nothing..that takes a lot of faith. We are creative beings. Everything we have before us, which are dead inanimate objects are created with our hands. How much more comlex are living organisms worked together in perfect harmony? Especially when you look at things on a cellular level. The DNA molecule within each of our cells is threaded so fine that it can only be seen under high powerful electron microscopes. The DNA molecule is threaded so fine that it is only possible to see it under high powerful electron microscopes. To get a sense of exactly how long an uncoiled DNA molecule is compared to a typical cell, a cell is magnified 1000 times. At this scale, the total length of all the DNA in the cell’s nucleus would be 3 km.The human genome comprises the information contained in one set of human chromosomes which themselves contain about 3 billion base pairs (bp) of DNA in 46 chromosomes (22 autosome pairs + 2 sex chromosomes). The total length of DNA present in one adult human is calculated by the multiplication of
(length of 1 bp)(number of bp per cell)(number of cells in the body)
(0.34 × 10−9 m)(6 × 109)(1013)
2.0 × 1013 meters
That is the equivalent of nearly 70 trips from the earth to the sun and back.
2.0 × 1013 meters = 133.691627 astronomical units
133.691627/2 = 66.8458135 round trips to the sun
On the average, a single human chromosome consists of DNA Molecule that is almost 5 centimeters.” A single celled amoeba which is the lowest life form containing 54 chromosomes, is more complex than all the contained knowledge of man on this planet. Evolution is a religion. God, is a Creator, who created us for a purpose. Who sent HIS son Jesus Christ(the God-man) to redeem a peculiar people, his children..why? Simply because HE loves us, and desires for us to know HIM, and fellowship with HIM.
dna is quite long
whats your point
and how does it prove this one religion among thousands might be true?
no one expects the sun to burn forever i think its expected to fail in another 3.5 billion years or so .. thats how much H it has left based on spectrogram and thats how fast its burning it based on its diameter
also .. in australia, very ancient objects near or on the surface ..
yes thats right visit us sometime its remarkable even DINOSAUR is right near the surface
but yeah id still like a simple answer .. do you feel the visible cosmos is also less than 10k old or is it just earth?
if animals used land bridges tto australia how come theres only humans and dogs representing mammals? both obviously recent arrivals to boot
and wgy arent marsupials anywhere else?
I dont know why you need land bridges they would seem to be to explain circumstances we cant actually see in reality
also, why do you believe 2 members of a species is a suffiecient gene pool to prevent inbreeding? this nuber does vary but its definetly not TWO for any known animal lol .. its usually in the hundreds .. i believe himans can just get away with 450 ONLY IF a doctor tells everyone who they can breed with to stop inbreeding .. if theres 5k or more of us this is no longer neccesary
so noah and his family inbreeding there .. at least 5000 people in that group you reckon?
Dna point is complexity of life…how could it evolve? impossible. It’s like saying throw mud on ground and it will turn into eiffel tower. We should be swimming in fossils..based on evolution narrative of transtional species..where are they? plus the complexity. Land bridges are the option if you need to get there..i don’t have all the answers nor do I need them. Evolution provides no answer because it isnot based on real science but rather conjectures. Darwin only presented evolution as a possible hypothesis for life. If you don’t believe in God, you need to explain everything around somehow..right. Inbreeding is not dangerous from first of new species. For instance new created dog lines use inbreeding in order to develop large enough breeding pool, and maintain purity of bloodline. Humans work in the same way. Obviously can’t be used to day because of genetic weakened lines(disease, abnormalities),inherent in human gene pool. When the blood-lines are new genetic mutations are almost non-existent. After so many generations is when problems arise.
do you think the rest of the visible universe is similarly less than 10k years old, like earth?
The 1954 Talbot-Lago T26 Grand Sport Coupe……*Supreme Elegance
Talbot-Lago introduced its new coupe in the fall of 1947 amid brewing financial difficulties. The existing T16 Grand Sport model donated its chassis for the new version, but Talbot wanted a shorter coupe. And they weren’t kidding the T16 chassis was 123 inches long, but after engineers at Talbot finalized the T26 version, just 104 inches remained. This Extra Short Chassis entered series production in 1948. For customers who wanted more space, Talbot also offered a Longue version of their super short chassis, which measured in at 110 inches.
The 4.5-liter inline-six engine from the Record was tuned up to 190 or 195 horsepower. The engine’s considerable power was achieved through features like triple carburetors and a hollowed-out camshaft. Top speed was around 124 miles per hour, depending on what sort of body the owner fitted. Well suited for racing or luxury duty, the T26 was one of the most powerful production cars in existence at the time.
Production started out slowly, and in its first full year of 1948 just 12 examples of the Grand Sport were made. Talbot kept building the T26 at a very slow pace. Though the model continued through early 1955, only around 20 were made.
Hope you are well………*Happy Sunday……..Have a great week ahead.